Btw it is hypocrisy to say 'yes I would take someone in my home' and then say no right after like they (appear to) do in the video!
Anders Andersen
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Would You Shelter An Illegal Alien Seeking To Come To Your Country?
by minimus ini know many people support leniency for illegal aliens.
they feel terrible for them and often feel laws should be changed so we can welcome people who are not as fortunate as we might be.. would you allow an illegal alien to reside with you in your home, with your family?
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Would You Shelter An Illegal Alien Seeking To Come To Your Country?
by minimus ini know many people support leniency for illegal aliens.
they feel terrible for them and often feel laws should be changed so we can welcome people who are not as fortunate as we might be.. would you allow an illegal alien to reside with you in your home, with your family?
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Anders Andersen
It’s all about hypocrisy! Sure we should allow illegals to live in our country but not I’m my house!
It's a silly question.
Should we allow minimus to live in our country? Most people would say yes. But quite sure most who think so wouldn't want him living in their house.Likewise, would minimus allow his neighbors and many others (non refugees, non illegal aliens) to live in his country? Sure! But quite sure not in minimus' house...
It's silly to call hypocrisy if you would answer the same question in the same way in a slightly different but entirely similar situation.
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Would You Shelter An Illegal Alien Seeking To Come To Your Country?
by minimus ini know many people support leniency for illegal aliens.
they feel terrible for them and often feel laws should be changed so we can welcome people who are not as fortunate as we might be.. would you allow an illegal alien to reside with you in your home, with your family?
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Anders Andersen
The same is true the other way around tho. Would you want to live in the country and situation those refugees come from?
If not, how dare we send them back?
If so, feel free to leave now ;-)
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Belgium branch raided by police in CSA investigation
by Anders Andersen ina few weeks ago the branch in the netherlands was raided by dutch police looking for evidence in csa court cases.. last week (april 25) belgian police raided the branch in belgium, after several high profile media items made it clear jw have a big problem when it comes to handling csa..
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Anders Andersen
A few weeks ago the branch in the Netherlands was raided by Dutch police looking for evidence in CSA court cases.
Last week (April 25) Belgian police raided the branch in Belgium, after several high profile media items made it clear JW have a big problem when it comes to handling csa.
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New Bethel in Bologna (It.)
by LaFrancia inthe new bethel is in bologna city.
rome be for sale.
the new bethel not ready until 2020.
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Anders Andersen
Such great news! Thanks for sharing LaFrancia!
Too bad Jehovah didn't manage to properly foresee building cost. Even His own son knew you have to properly calculate the cost before building!
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Scanning and Sending Medical Records Through Emails--Circuit Overseer Letter!
by Atlantis inatlantis, do you have the circuit overseer's letter, where they say they scan and send your medical records through emails?
isn't that against the law?.
you would need to speak with those on the board with legal knowledge on that subject, because i am not qualified in such legal matters.
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Anders Andersen
Did you all not know that once you join the Jdubs , you lose all your rights, sign off your privacy, give up all your rights !
The borg certainly acts as if that were true. Unfortunately for them decent governments disagree.
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Scanning and Sending Medical Records Through Emails--Circuit Overseer Letter!
by Atlantis inatlantis, do you have the circuit overseer's letter, where they say they scan and send your medical records through emails?
isn't that against the law?.
you would need to speak with those on the board with legal knowledge on that subject, because i am not qualified in such legal matters.
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Anders Andersen
The question was "Is it illegal to email medical records" hence my answer, not if permission is granted. (in California apparently.)
That depends on jurisdiction, reason, what email, subject approval etc.
Generally it can be said that keeping electronic records and/or sharing records electronically (whether by email or otherwise) isn't illegal in and by itself. However, the way Watchtower representatives handle sensitive data such as ADD is very much illegal in many jurisdictions (at least all of Europe). Not necessarily because they share (which may be legal if the subject approved such sharing after he was fully informed) but because they don't keep the data safe, they have no policy on data retention/destruction, they have no way of knowing where the data goes or not, and Watchtower denies responsibility for data the elders keep for their Watchtower duties.
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Scanning and Sending Medical Records Through Emails--Circuit Overseer Letter!
by Atlantis inatlantis, do you have the circuit overseer's letter, where they say they scan and send your medical records through emails?
isn't that against the law?.
you would need to speak with those on the board with legal knowledge on that subject, because i am not qualified in such legal matters.
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Anders Andersen
@smiddy,
This is due to several issues:
GDPR is relatively new. The national and international agencies that are responsible for informing, policing and enforcing the law are often overwhelmed and understaffed. They are also somewhat lenient as not all aspects of the rules are entirely clear yet (there is little jurisprudence and precedents).
Unfamiliarity of the agencies with all the companies and organizations that fail to uphold the law in this regard. How could an agency know JW elders have your ADD on their private PC unless someone complains about it? And of course the good little JW aren't gonna complain. Those who don't report child abuse certainly would not report a simple violation of privacy laws, would they? So the enforcement agencies are often in the dark.
It's interesting though that the more visible issues of Watchtower and GDPR are already being addressed. In Finland, JW were convicted for violating GDPR by taking and keeping records during field service. JW argued those notes are exempt as for strictly personal use. The courts disagreed. JW appealed to EU courts, but they agreed with Finland. So now in all of Europe JW have a problem as their field service notes are considered to be subject to GDPR. I know the Dutch government is already aware of this too, and probably the same is true for other countries too.
But processes like these run slowly....
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Scanning and Sending Medical Records Through Emails--Circuit Overseer Letter!
by Atlantis inatlantis, do you have the circuit overseer's letter, where they say they scan and send your medical records through emails?
isn't that against the law?.
you would need to speak with those on the board with legal knowledge on that subject, because i am not qualified in such legal matters.
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Anders Andersen
I can just imagine how the incompetent men who are often completely oblivious to legal matters and technology that go by the title of 'elder' would mess this up:
At some point they need to share your ADD, so they scan it and mail it to other elders.
Now several elders have your personal identifiable data of the highest class on their PC. A PC that is often also used by their family members. A PC that may or may not have decent virus and hacker protection - it's a private PC, not a corporate one maintained by a proper IT dept. A PC that at one point may be thrown out or given away without being wiped properly by its clueless owner. God knows where your private data is kept or ends up.
At least the sending of email is done through jw so the data isn't also in several people's hotmail accounts (assuming the elders follow orders on this).
Regardless, all this is very much contrary to European law on personal data (GDPR).
For example, organizations should be able to tell you which data they keep of you, why, where, how, of how long. They must delete your data (or most of it) when you request so.
Guess what? Watchtower and your local congregation probably don't know what all those elders did with your files. They can't tell you, and are this in violation of GDPR. They also wouldn't be able to make sure all those elders removed your files when you did such a request. Another violation. And so on and so on.
Watchtower is very much screwed under GDPR. To adhere to it, they must properly arrange their affairs down to the lowest level of their officials. But when they do that, they lose the opportunity of limited liability and plausible deniability that they now often abuse when they argue that COs, congregations and elders are no part of Watchtower.
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What is some good information I can anonymously give my neighbor (foreign language)?
by Tameria2001 ineight years ago the jws were making return visits with my spanish speaking neighbor (she speaks very little english).
they were calling on her during a period in her life that things were not so good.
i already know that jws love to take opportunities like this to try to suck someone into their cult.
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Anders Andersen
Jwfacts.com has a pamphlet in multiple languages, including Spanish, but it's not about csa.